• Bye@lemmy.world
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    We always had lots of guns, why are mass shootings a modern phenomenon?

    I think we should regulate them the way we do cars. But also there’s clearly some underlying issue. Maybe cultural where people see guns as a way to escape or see them as part of their personality.

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      Because old guns took 30 seconds to reload one bullet and were inaccurate past like 3 meters

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          oh yeah? you could get that $200 tax stamp right there huh? National Firearms Act of 1934 was a thing in 1986 bro.

          maybe you could get your ffl to arrange for it ahead of time, using the info from your previous stamp applications…

          but the tax stamp still took time, stop acting like it was easy as picking up a cheeseburger. deliberately promoting the idea that fully automatic firearms were all over, it’s just the crazy people today that’s the problem, is facile bullshit.

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          I’m seeing a lot of shootings since the 80s. Guns get better and people get more fucked up mentally. America chooses to fix neither.

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        they have no answer for it. turns out, the good guy with a gun is either a myth for morons, or, more guns ain’t making anything better.

        huh.

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          are you dumb enough to believe there’s an equivalence or just shit posting because you don’t care?

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            They’re pointing out that correlation isn’t causation. For example, what if shootings are scaring people into buying more guns?

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              No, they’re just shit posting because they don’t want anyone to question their fetish. When you care about firearms more than dead children, it’s some kind of sick obsession and you need therapy.

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              I mean that is part of it. The NRA has people living in a collective delusion. This delusion appeals particularly to people who are dejected or vulnerable because it gives them something like an ego safety net. So when the inevitable happens, and some of these people “snap,” they have nearly ubiquitous tools available to make it everyone else’s problem.

              Gun availability is a big part of the problem, but the even bigger issue is the culture of fear the NRA and Republican politicians have pushed to sell more guns, and how that intersects with other social ills in the US.

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      I do agree that guns should be regulated like cars with mass shootings by social outcasts from my understanding are trying to get back at society and even if you straight up ban guns what’s stopping the outcast from doing a mas stabbing instead gun regulation is just a nesesary speed bump for people that want to hunt people same thing with gun bans as they are used by militarys and illegal sales and manufacturing will just skyrocket

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        It’s a hell of a lot harder to commit a mass stabbing compared to a mass shooting. And funnily enough, mass stabbings are rare in countries that have strict gun regulations. It’s almost like it’s a non-issue created by pro-gun advocates to distract from the weekly mass shootings in the US.

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          This just isn’t true. A knife is far more concealable, far more stealthy in the aftermath of a shank and move (look at prison shankings going unnoticed all the time), and far more likely to cause death. China literally has a mass stabbing problem. Generally targeted at elementary age children. One specifically killing 33 and injuring 130. You’re just falling for propaganda rhetoric.

          In self defense knives increase the chance to injure or kill yourself over a gun or with just your hands, increase the fatality rate for any stabbed over being shot, and rarely lose against anything in close quarters (hence why you run from knives but try and redirect the barrel a gun when possible). Dirks and daggers are well known to be one of the most dangerous weapons created and were literally outlawed throughout history, in some places even currently.