The implication of what they’re saying is that the Chinese government’s actions generally represent the will of the Chinese people so you can’t just separate them like you can with America.
Do you agree with this implication or did you just explain it to me? Because I would never equate the actions of the government of a nation state with the people who happen to live there
I don’t know how much you can trust the narrative when the media is all state controlled and anti-party speech is at best minimized, at worst censored. Total state control of the narrative is not conducive to free and fair elections, not to mention a police state. Before you whatabout, I’m well aware that the US is a police state and is controlled by two parties of neo-libs. I’m no supporter of the US, but I’m also no supporter of any autocratic regime. Calling the PRC a fair democracy is at best willfully ignoring the extreme state control over information, at worst denying a tyrannic despot twisting socialism into an autocratic, capitalist dictatorship while silencing opposition.
Let’s agree that both are bad. What is your goal with this whataboutism?
The implication of what they’re saying is that the Chinese government’s actions generally represent the will of the Chinese people so you can’t just separate them like you can with America.
Do you agree with this implication or did you just explain it to me? Because I would never equate the actions of the government of a nation state with the people who happen to live there
I would if the people overwhelmingly support that action, yes.
Well, do they ever?
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Protests like in Tiananmen Square?
Deng Xiaoping literally stepped down after this.
You’re saying he stepped down because of this, yet others are saying nothing happened?
Still doesn’t make protest an low threshold way of political participation
I don’t know how much you can trust the narrative when the media is all state controlled and anti-party speech is at best minimized, at worst censored. Total state control of the narrative is not conducive to free and fair elections, not to mention a police state. Before you whatabout, I’m well aware that the US is a police state and is controlled by two parties of neo-libs. I’m no supporter of the US, but I’m also no supporter of any autocratic regime. Calling the PRC a fair democracy is at best willfully ignoring the extreme state control over information, at worst denying a tyrannic despot twisting socialism into an autocratic, capitalist dictatorship while silencing opposition.