• CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world
      286·
      2 months ago

      I just pirate that porn, heck many of them charge for their OF while they post the same shit that’s on their insta and when they do release something worthwhile you gotta dunk another 50 to get it.

      While already spending 8 bucks a month just to see a mirror of their instagram.

      Just sell the damn video for 58 bucks and leave out the bullshit part of the deal. They’re just playing into addiction related habits to get you to spend more.

      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        35·
        2 months ago

        I had a very interesting interaction with an OF model. I made an account years ago to support a friend who was starting out there. I logged in a few days ago to see another model that had advertised on a different platform.

        I get a notification of a message and it’s one of the models where they have a free OF but everything is PPV.

        I figured it was a bot and just ignored it but then got another notification. I figured I could just reply and say hi.

        The model in question is a porn star (i.e. has videos on major production companies) but also has an OF. I subscribed because she’s totally my type.

        Anyway I’m having this back and forth with her and I’m wondering “this isn’t a bot but…is it really her?”

        And I got the sense that these professional models hire people to chat with people on their OF. That’s nuts! I get that porn sells a fantasy. That’s a given but I didn’t expect that they would hire people to pretend to be them.

        • KellysNokia@lemmy.world
          32·
          2 months ago

          I had a similar experience but then I got a little uncomfortable because she started sending me weird cryptic messages

          Stuff like “The operation failed with an error. [429] You have reached your OpenAI API limit. Please check your plan and billing details”

        • camr_on@lemmy.world
          26·
          2 months ago

          there’s a massive industry of hiring people to pretend to be models, because there’s huge money in personal experiences / personally tailored experiences. I listened to a podcast where they interviewed someone from the Phillipines who worked in the equivalent of a call center that was made up of people sexting in OF dms. A lot of people wouldn’t pay for like pornhub premium or something like that, but would pay for “custom” content and “real” attention from their favorite performer

          • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            10·
            2 months ago

            That was the key to know it wasn’t really the model. She was trying to sell me on buying a photo set. I asked her if they were exclusive to me, to which she replied yes.

            Then I asked her to do a custom pose (nothing scandalous; wanted to see how exclusive this was) and she said she couldn’t do that.

            At that point I said to her thanks but no thanks

            But I agree. If she would have done that I probably would have paid for it. But not for pictures that everyone else.

        • Meron35@lemmy.world
          10·
          2 months ago

          Drag queen Amanda Tori Meating has gone on the record about her day job as an OnlyFans ghostwriter. There’s an entire industry of talent agencies that hire minimum wage gig workers to pretend to be the model you are paying $x per month to interact with.

        • Donkter@lemmy.world
          10·
          2 months ago

          Unfortunately because of the stigma and the defacto ostracization from certain aspects of society, not the least of which is financial, people in these industries are usually really callous when it comes to extracting money out of the clients. Not to mention the fact that most of society doesn’t need porn or doesn’t need it enough to consider paying for it.

          I suppose it’s tit-for-tat. The client objectifies them as a sex object, they objectify the client as a cash cow. But now I’m just describing most capitalist exchanges.

        • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          2 months ago

          I didn’t expect that they would hire people to pretend to be them.

          Why wouldn’t they? Think about trying to respond to all of those people, every day, on top of doing everything else you need to do.

          • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            9·
            2 months ago

            As I am learning it makes sense but here’s how I think about it.

            I’m very supportive of sex work. But I don’t want to be tricked or misled.

            If you’re offering “exclusive” pictures that are taken just for me, I would expect that you don’t sell them to anyone else. At that point, I’m contracting you for a specific job and paying for the product.

            The crazy ones I’ve heard about are women looking for sugar daddies on dating websites. They set up profiles like any woman would but as you strike up a conversation, you find out that they just want someone to pay their bills.

            So if an OF model is chatting with her fans, you go girl and do your thing. But don’t make me think that I’m talking to you when really it’s some low-wage employee in the Philippines who’s gonna get fired because their upsale didn’t work on me.

            • Emerald@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 months ago

              If you’re offering “exclusive” pictures that are taken just for me, I would expect that you don’t sell them to anyone else.

              Nah. Work smarter, not harder

        • Too Ren@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Go on /r/forhire on reddit, there are a bunch of jobs for OF chatters, mostly in the Phillipines

    • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
      1810·
      2 months ago

      Shady shit happens specifically because there is money to be made. If everyone around the world stopped paying for porn, full stop, then the only porn that would be made would be passion projects from artists who want to create for the sake of it.

      • Poplar?@lemmy.world
        22·
        2 months ago

        Doubt it. People would still post revenge porn, unconsensually filmed stuff or leak e.g nudes that were meant for each other and not the public. Because the motivation there is not money, it would be to humiliate, for example.

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 months ago

        Exploitation takes place when the money isn’t paid directly to the workers. Anyone who cares to consume porn responsibly should consider this before they go to free hosting sites that make money from ad revenue and shady services.

        • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
          13·
          2 months ago

          ad revenue and shady services

          So as long as there is money to be made?

      • Too Ren@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        21·
        2 months ago

        i post porn for free but have been paid for it, those are the only times I’ve been uncomfortable

        • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          91·
          2 months ago

          But Jennifer, also on the conference call, is always rooting for me 110%. We should all be more like Jennifer.

      • stoicmaverick@lemmy.world
        16·
        2 months ago

        Porn is the only reason I am still married. After our second kid, my wife’s already low sex drive dropped to asexual. She is a wonderful mother, but she is either willfully or ignorantly oblivious to any romantic advance. I get, on average, about one fully clothed, under-the-covers hand job every 6 months or so that’s so unenthusiastic that I am reminded why I stopped trying to get her to do it. I am sexually starving. The only thing I want in the world right now is to feel the warm touch of someone who actually wants to touch me again, but I’d rather die, lonely, but married to her than let my kids grow up in a broken home…

        So ya, I jerk off to porn after she goes to bed.

        • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
          85·
          2 months ago

          It’s better to show your kids what is like to be happy and have your needs met than to show them being miserable and setling. Especially on their behalf.

          Which would you rather for your kids?

          Which are you showing your kids by example?

          • stoicmaverick@lemmy.world
            51·
            2 months ago

            Do you have kids? I used to hate when people would ask me that question before I had kids, because it seems to imply that having them places your opinion on a higher tier. Now that I do, I try and avoid it as much as possible for that reason, but I do understand that parenting is one of the theaters where theory space, and optimal practice, can be very different. The fact is, they never have to know, at least until they’re old enough to understand. They don’t have to know that Dad is sad when he’s alone with Mom, because we still have fun and laugh as a family when they are present. The lesson that I’m teaching them by example, is that it is better to have one bedroom than two, then to have to decide whether they want to live with mom or dad most of the time, that even though Mom and Dad civilly argue sometimes, we can still be a family, and be happy most of the time, rather than give up on a promise made before they were born because of factors they can’t possibly understand yet.

            • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
              33·
              2 months ago

              Yeah. I had a dad that didn’t get laid too. Sex is in the bottom layers of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, then intimacy is up higher as well. If you’re not getting these things you’re not going to be able to hide them. Your kids won’t know why until they’re much older WHY your not happy, but that is a sadness of the soul that nothing can hide.

              You ever see one of your friends the day after they get laid and you just know. That’s a kind of joy from having your needs met that you can’t fake.

              You’re teaching your kids it’s OK with someone who doesn’t meet your needs. It’s not.

              Be with someone who makes you happy. Let your wife do the same. Show your kids what a happy marriage and happy parents look like so they can model their relationships that way. Don’t continue the cycle.

          • Emerald@lemmy.world
            33·
            2 months ago

            Ah, yes. Let me tell the children that I’m getting a divorce cause wifey won’t fuck me

              • Emerald@lemmy.world
                32·
                2 months ago

                Except it seems from the comment that they are still in a loving relationship, just not much of a sexual one.

                • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  2 months ago

                  Cause it’s condescending to explain to a person you don’t know who has been in a serious relationship with a person you dont know for who knows how long that you can tap it if you’re just an extra good boy.

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          Damn that sucks! Wouldn’t have believed somebody telling you on your honeymoon that so little intimacy was in your future, huh? No fair :( I hope that, if nothing changes, your coping mechanisms remain effective.

  • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml
    631·
    2 months ago

    The porn industry is so fucked, most actors don’t see much regardless of the popularity of their videos. Fuck that.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      181·
      2 months ago

      That’s arguably why the current crop of porn is so heavily weighted to the incest fantasy shit.

      The Hapsburgs are driving the market for new material.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
    18·
    2 months ago

    I’d pay if there was a more discrete way of doing it. Overall, you should pay for the things you want. Or they will go away (well probably not porn). But like local businesses and such.

  • jdf038@mander.xyz
    192·
    2 months ago

    Those interested: Erika Lust is a fun site. It has more ethical porn that you don’t have to wade through weird crap for. Well worth it IMHO

    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
      2·
      2 months ago

      Erika Lust

      I get turned off by high production values like that, it’s like jacking off at someone’s workplace.

      I have a hard time keeping it off when it involves the profit motive

  • Steal Wool@lemm.eeEnglish
    111·
    2 months ago

    I feel like this is implying that there’s just “free porn” out there “somewhere” on the internet

    • Zink@programming.dev
      61·
      2 months ago

      lol yeah, what’s next? Are benevolent pixies going to distribute it throughout the forest too?

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    71·
    2 months ago

    I’m really shocked at how many people (apparently) shell out for onlyfans, subscriptions and such.

    I swear, I’m the only sane one, not the only insane one.