“Nobody in China is allowed to know what happened in Tienanmen Square. You’re not allowed to talk about it. Everything is censored. Nobody in China knows what happened.”
Pure propaganda. This shit is in Chinese elementary school textbooks. Its about as poorly disseminated and heavily censored as the Kent State Massacre or the Waco Siege or the OWS protests in the United States.
You’re the problem. It’s you.
I’m not saying no one ever gets their posts removed or banned from communities or whatever
That crazy, because that’s exactly what I’m saying. And yet we’re stuck here with you calling me a liar.
This has the same vibe as the hundreds of posts that appear on there every single year around the Tiananmen Square massacre anniversary saying stuff like “Reddit is owned by Tencent!!!1! and they’re banning everyone who mentions Tiananmen Square!!!11!!!”
Yes, the anti-China trolls love to insist they’re speaking truth to power rather than just echoing a bit of recycled propaganda from the 1990s.
No, that doesn’t change the fact that Rule #1 gets invoked on guillotine posts regularly.
The guillotine joke is probably one of the most common reaction posts to any corporate news on Reddit.
Who subs have gotten shut down because Reddit administrators accused the local mods of failing to curtail it.
Pretending anyone at Reddit HQ cares about this kind of thing is peak Redditor behaviour.
The application of the ban rules tend to be arbitrary and highly political. But guillotine jokes absolutely get accounts banned. And moderators who fail to consistently ban certain accounts were targeted for removal very aggressively over the last four years.
It’s crazy how the 1980s mafia bust-out strategy for squeezing a business dry used to be the thing a district attorney would level RICO charges against.
Now its the preferred strategy of hedge funds run by the children of those district attorneys.
On Reddit, your account would be banned for contributing to an anti-social atmosphere after two dozen corporate accounts red-flagged this image and reported it to the PR staffer currently operating as the subs moderator.
Industry insiders will pay tens of millions of dollars a year to fight off the bad press of their shitty decisions, while doggedly insisting the market cannot support the salaries of a few middle income developers living in some of the most expensive residential markets in the country.
knock at the door
Me, excitedly answering
“It’s us! The four most famous renaissance era artists!”
Me, crying and running into my room.
Don’t think these evangelicals don’t know what they are doing.
They know exactly what they are doing.
no patience for the semantic argument
I don’t think I’d call arming a terrorist group sementics
and you’re argueing, “what if the CIA funded the wahhabi’s?” as though that contradicts my point.
Is the CIA Wahhabist?
If the CIA sends aid to the Islamic State, what do we call that?
I guess I should trust the CIA more?
Firstly they never said that they would turn him to the US.
Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, Taliban’s last foreign minister, told Al Jazeera in an exclusive interview that his government had made several proposals to the United States to present the al-Qaeda leader, considered the mastermind of the 2001 attacks, for trial for his involvement in plots targeting US facilities during the 1990s.
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Robert Grenier, the CIA station chief in Pakistan at the time of 9/11, confirmed that such proposals had been made to US officials.
Grenier said the US considered the offers to bring in Bin Laden to trial a “ploy”.
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Subsequent to the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, as US pressure grew, the Taliban insisted on a procedure under the supervision of OIC because it considered it a “neutral international organisation”.
The OIC is a Saudi Arabia-based organisation representing 56 Muslim nations. Al Jazeera contacted the OIC, but nobody was available for comment.
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Muttawakil, who now lives in Kabul and advises an Islamic educational foundation, reportedly tried to negotiate a ceasefire in the days after the US launched operations in the country in 2001 by seeking to convince Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, to part ways with bin Laden.
He was taken into US custody in the notorious Bagram prison early in 2002. After months of detention, he was released under house arrest in Kandahar and then moved to Kabul.
So hey, in fairness, maybe the guy we illegally tortured for years at Bagram may have stretched the truth. But it appears the US CIA station chief simply didn’t trust the Taliban in the run up to 9/11 and decided it wasn’t worth the trouble to negotiate.
Islamic terrorism has almost exclusively been the domain of Wahhabists like Al-Queada and Islamic State
And, you know… some other guys…
Also, uh… some people closer to home
There’s an old joke about the Anti-American Terrorist and the Pro-American Freedom Fighter being the same dude pointed in different directions. The Taliban, being once again in control of the Afghani government, isn’t going to see itself as a “terrorist organization” any more than the Philadelphia PD bombing your house would.
The Taliban is currently fighting Islamic State Khorasan Province, which is largely constituted of former collaborators of the coalition government.
The Moderate Rebels! Easy to forget that ISIS used to be an ally of
By turns. I’m sure that, while folks on CNN clutch their pearls and cry to the heavens about the horrors perpetuated by the Taliban on women, LGBTQ groups, minority religions, cough drug traffickers cough, and American business interests in the region, we’re going to hear very little about the politics of this particular incarnation of the Islamic State.
Aw shit, its taking hold of me! I’m going to resent its absence.
Or possibly people living in milquetoast office park suburbs where the restaurant options are dogshit.
No shortage of good lunch foods in downtown Houston.
Just eat a small one
Un-owned cats, as opposed to owned pets, cause the majority of this mortality
I’m not sure what the solution is here.
We should rethink our attachments to miniature tigers.
And do what? Its not the pets that are doing the bulk of the killing.
The idea that the John Birch Society single handedly perpetuated the Tienanmen Protests is pretty classic “evil foreigners did this” bullshit propaganda. But I see folks on Lemmy (and even more zealous folks on Reddit) doggedly assert that you can be arrested for saying the words “Tienanmen Square” in public.
Incidentally, you can link information to the contrary on Reddit, and that’s also grounds for account suspension, given a critical mass of users slamming the “Report” button.
Every social media site has its orthodoxy and its taboos. Saying anything outside this orthodoxy opens you up to the full toolbox of censorship, depending on the zealousness of the moderators and administrators.