You can also refute it by inverting the logic. If you like milk chocolate but don’t like eating a bowl full of sugar, you like chocolate more than sugar. Curious what the name for that would be.
Which makes “debate” look a bit like a dog’s breakfast. But we live in a society, nobody said science is perfect and, ultimately, personal judgment trumps everything.
The earlier dialogues of Plato (424–348 BCE), relating the discourses of Socrates, raised the use of reductio arguments to a formal dialectical method (elenchus), also called the Socratic method.
The first statement is actully true though, there is more sugar in milk chocolate than chocolate. the others are all obviously incorrect, there is more pickles, more chicken etc.
It’s not true. You can like a product without liking all of its ingredients in their more pure form. I like bread, but I’m not a fan of choking down handfuls of flour or yeast.
In cooking, the result is greater than the sum of its parts, and ingredients strength matters more than raw volume. Here’s a more direct example. You probably don’t enjoy chugging raw vanilla extract, and vanilla extract is highly concentrated in a small volume. Just because you don’t like the concentrated form and it makes up a small volume in recipes, doesn’t mean you don’t like vanilla.
i don’t understand your point. i simply pointed out that there is indeed more sugar in milk choc than chocolate. i don’t think anyone can deny sugar isn’t the first and most dominating flavour of milk chocolate. sure it hasa choc after-taste. The other examples were silly because they all referenced things that didn’t have the dominant flavour or indeed the dominant ingredient they were attempting to mock.
Why you and apparently 19 others are butt hurt about the fact milk choc is mostly sugar both ingredient wise and flavour wise is frankly bizarre to me.
fun fact: this is called “Reductio ad absurdum” and it’s a valid strategy in debate/rethoric.
It works great when countering stupid shit that sounds logical but really isn’t.
Nice try, thats a harry potter spell. You’re not gonna fool me
Homie really thought he was gonna slip it by ye
If you like debates, but don’t like stupid takes then you just like to stay sane
You can also refute it by inverting the logic. If you like milk chocolate but don’t like eating a bowl full of sugar, you like chocolate more than sugar. Curious what the name for that would be.
Imho you inverted the arguments but not the logic. You’re still using the same blend of false dichotomy and ig slippery slope.
So it would still be the same reductio ad absurdum
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Also perfectly valid in maths, and widely used
Isn’t it just a type of straw man argument?
Only if you drink chocolate with a straw.
I believe they’re talking about the responses, not the original post.
Which makes “debate” look a bit like a dog’s breakfast. But we live in a society, nobody said science is perfect and, ultimately, personal judgment trumps everything.
can i get a citation (since we’re debate lording) on what constitutes a “valid” argument and how this fits into that category?
Classical philosophy used it often,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
If you want a more modern source, here is a lecture on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iepg5Q4rBAQ&list=PLPnZfvKID1Sje5jWxt-4CSZD7bUI4gSPS&index=53
I can recommend the entire lecture. It’s both entertaining and valuable.
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The first statement is actully true though, there is more sugar in milk chocolate than chocolate. the others are all obviously incorrect, there is more pickles, more chicken etc.
It’s not true. You can like a product without liking all of its ingredients in their more pure form. I like bread, but I’m not a fan of choking down handfuls of flour or yeast.
You’re missing out, but whatever. More for the rest of us!
In cooking, the result is greater than the sum of its parts, and ingredients strength matters more than raw volume. Here’s a more direct example. You probably don’t enjoy chugging raw vanilla extract, and vanilla extract is highly concentrated in a small volume. Just because you don’t like the concentrated form and it makes up a small volume in recipes, doesn’t mean you don’t like vanilla.
yeah that’s a better analogy. lol @ the downvotes
There’s also the dairy part
yeah but that’s the last ingredient.
No it is not true. Things can, and often are, worth more than the sum of their parts.
ok bro, well enjoy your sugar.
How are you not able to get this? Do you like coffee? It is 99% water.
i don’t understand your point. i simply pointed out that there is indeed more sugar in milk choc than chocolate. i don’t think anyone can deny sugar isn’t the first and most dominating flavour of milk chocolate. sure it hasa choc after-taste. The other examples were silly because they all referenced things that didn’t have the dominant flavour or indeed the dominant ingredient they were attempting to mock.
Why you and apparently 19 others are butt hurt about the fact milk choc is mostly sugar both ingredient wise and flavour wise is frankly bizarre to me.
you must be on the spectrum
real mature