REMINDER: this is a shitpost

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Yeah, Jenny is a severely flawed character who makes some bad choices.

    That what makes her a good character.

    I feel like in the past 10 years or so we’ve seen a subtle shift where we now expect characters to be held to standards higher than we hold our real neighbors. As if art has stopped imitating life but instead now art projects a sterilized or idealized version of the world. Like now when a character is flawed, they aren’t just flawed, they’re wrong, and personally I think that’s wrong.

    Not every character in every media is meant to be a role model, and there are stories and lessons to be gleaned even from those who don’t live up to idealized standards.

    And yes, I know this is a shitpost; chill out, we can still have a discussion even if it results from a joke

  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    Love the incel worldview where every part of a woman’s very complex, very traumatic, very painful life can be reduced to her relationship with a man. And the framing that being a single mom who has aids (which isn’t even what she had in the movie) makes her worth less than she was before. Fucking gross. Dunno why this community isn’t removing misogynistic trash.

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      10 months ago

      Actually, she did have HIV in the movie, the screenwriter confirmed it a few years ago. She did have hep-c in the book though.

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      10 months ago

      I’m just gonna say what every woman has told me when I bring up how traumatized I am by the actions of women.

      “Just because you’ve been traumatized doesn’t mean it’s anyone else’s problem”

      So yeah. Fuck Jenny and her bullshit sob story. She didn’t deserve forest and he only stayed faithful because he was mentally disabled.

      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 months ago

        Love that you characterize sexual physical and emotional abuse by multiple men, including her father, throughout her lifetime as a sob story. Yeah, sounds like they told you it’s not anyone else’s problem specifically because you’re a misogynist and are using your past trauma as justification.

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          10 months ago

          You literally know nothing about my experiences but because I’m a man you immediately downplay them lmfao get bent and blocked

          • ShustOne@lemmy.one
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            10 months ago

            I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences with women but that doesn’t mean women can’t also have bad lives.

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              10 months ago

              He didn’t imply that it had. If you’d like to demonstrate your respect for this human being, read what he wrote.

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                10 months ago

                I did. Up above he said that because other women have told him just because he’s traumatized doesn’t make it anyone else’s business that he can hold the opinion that Jenny is a piece of shit.

                He is using actions women have taken against him to justify his own callous attitude. Let me know if I misreading something.

          • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            10 months ago

            Nah it’s cuz you described her being sexually physically and emotionally abused by dozens of men throughout her life as a sob story. You told on yourself.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t understand the Jenny hate. Did they expect her to stay with Forrest and wait for him at home just baking pies and listening to the radio while he went off to war, sailed his shrimp boat, toured as a ping pong champion, and then just fucked off to go running for two years?

    Gump and Jenny were both rolling stones. She wanted to be free, and fly far far away from the home where she was abused. She wanted her own adventures. Gump was her best friend, but she didn’t have the capacity for the relationship he wanted.

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      10 months ago

      Jenny was molested as a child by her dad, and though she loved forrest, when she slept with him, she felt like she molested him because of his condition. This caused her to run away and fall back into self loathing and drugs, thinking she just became her own father. She loved Forrest more than anything, that’s why she stayed away, because she was a ticking time bomb and didn’t want to hurt him. When she found out she was dying she accepted her love for Forrest and realized he was the only good person in her life, and the only one she trusted to raise their son

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        10 months ago

        Because if you flip the gender roles she’d be considered a rapist and everyone would be up in arms about it

        But because sad traumatized girl it’s okay.

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    10 months ago

    I know it was Hep C, but Hep C usually takes a LOOOOONNGG time to kill ya. Like, at least 20 years. Even then you die of cancer or cirrhosis of the liver. As far back as the 80’s they had interferon which isn’t perfect, but between all the factors she still would have been fairly unlucky to die from Hep C. Especially so young.

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    10 months ago

    I always thought it was a stupid movie from when I first saw it in the theater. Stupid and incredibly maudlin. I have no idea why it was so beloved and the Oscars, aside from the technical ones, baffled me.

    I mean Tom Hanks is a good actor, but at best you can say he played a ludicrous character in a ludicrous movie as best he could. I wouldn’t give him an Emmy for Bosom Buddies either.

    Also, my wife read the book and apparently it, and Forrest, are very different. She said Forrest is kind of an asshole in the book.

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    10 months ago

    Forrest Gump is one of the many stories that could use two viewpoints from both the guy and the girl like they did in 500 Days of Summer or The Affair. It’s much easier to sympathize with someone when you get to see the story the way they experience it.

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    10 months ago

    Everybody gets the Jenny hate wrong. She deserves hate, but the incel obsession with simping and baby traps has the whole thing twisted.

    The main thrust of the plot is that Forrest is an unreliable narrator. Almost every joke is how he misunderstands the situation. Now think about the most famous “run Forrest run” scene. Have you ever wondered why the bullies didn’t pick on Jenny? We know they didn’t because Forrest would have defended her. What probably happened was that Jenny switched sides upon the arrival of the bullies and “run Forrest run” was a taunt as she threw rocks.

    Jenny putting Forrest in sexual situations probably didn’t start when they were College age either. Jenny’s upbringing was tragic, and we know the abused are likely to abuse others. If you think about Jenny’s early years, Forrest was probably the only thing in her life she had control over.

    The idea that Jenny baby-trapped Forrest doesn’t make sense with the themes of their relationship overall. Why would she trick him? Forrest would have taken the kid even if he knew he wasn’t the father. Jenny’s biggest transgression is not telling Forrest he was a father, but keeping that information from him for years.

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    10 months ago
    1. She had Hep C

    2. She was an abuse victim (remember when her dad raped her in like the first 5 minutes? Also how every single man after abuses her?) who could only associate feeling love with being abused. For her to accept Forrest’s love she had to first accept that not all love comes with abuse.

    3. Shut up

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      10 months ago
      1. Forrest had a serious intellectual disability, and she almost certainly felt like she was taking advantage of him.
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    10 months ago

    I swear they keep this character in their back pocket when no actual women have done anything to womanhate about lately. I guess Christmas has been quiet for them.