And since you won’t be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is… interesting to say the least.

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    One comment mentions possible incompability with article 22 of the GDPR, and I sure hope the EU will stand their ground on this.

    I can only imagine noyb letting all hell break loose. We need more people like him, dissecting corporations legal bs to find every last little thing we can possibly hold against them.

    Obligatory use Firefox

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      Let’s hope there’s already a law that the EU can find to apply (since they already don’t like the non-EU dominance of big tech), or that they make one in time.

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      The EU is rapidly becoming a neoliberal hellehole resembling the US. I no longer have any hope for existing institutions resisting corporate encroachment. Best that can be done is the support of initiatives like the fediverse and foss in general but if the current trend continues even that is in a precarious position.

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        The EU is so utterly out of whack right now.

        You got the proposal of chat control on one hand, and stuff like replaceable batteries on the other.

        Like, make up your mind already, do you want to help your citizens or not? It’s almost like they do it on purpose to keep our expectations in check.

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      I was just thinking that I’m sure Google will lobby the US government to get this model enforced as law, making it illegal for anyone to create workarounds, or alternative browsers. And the US legislative government being what it is, will hand Google whatever legislation it wants to turn their nightmare into a reality.

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      Obligatory use Firefox

      No way. Why should I feel obligated to use something I feel has inferior UX and UI than the browser I’m using now? For Mozilla’s CEO to rais her wage (again): https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html ?

      You people are really delusional if you really think that Mozilla are the only good guys (or good guys at all, for that matters).

      Inb4, unimaginative people downvoting just because they can’t stand different opinions.

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        I downvoted you because you made a terrible case for yourself. Learn to make a salient point, or learn to love being “edgy”. the choice is up to you, but the internet already has plenty of the latter, why not become the former?

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        What’s your alternative?

        EDIT: Oh I just found in the profile. It’s Brave. I used it for half a year before I got tired of the crypto ads sneaking into my home page’s links no matter how many times I deleted them and of some other stuff. I prefer Firefox’s UI. Also I don’t expect any browser to be 100% ethical but Brave is below Firefox in that list for me

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          If you truly cared about the state of the internet youd only browse websites with wget and text editors

          Or something

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          It doesn’t matter and it’s irrelevant here. I just despise Mozilla and their false morality. Use whatever you want.

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            It’s not irrelevant since you stated Firefox is less good than what you are using now. Of course people are interested in a feasible alternative. So, since you introduced it, what are you using instead?

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              I didn’t know I was so evil that I’m doing the world a worse place just because I prefer a different browser. And I’m ideologically far form alt-right, btw.

              OTOH, talking about corporate greed:

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                that is a funny graph. Even assuming the data is true, it deliberately missrepresents market share as usage. Which pretty much neglects the fact hat maybe a person or two and a device with a browser or two have entered the market since then.

                Also it does not have any information on source of the data, methodology, definition of the terms etc. So it is pretty much worthless as an argument.

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          Nice detective skills. I have the opposite view about Brave/Mozilla. But fine, we can agree to disagree and still be (virtual) friends.

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              Cool. On my part I, as a non crypto-bro, don’t want to be friends with stupid people. So, I’ll ignore you from now on.

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                Nice one mate. Looks like your personality is well-received here. Maybe going back to Reddit might suit you better.

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        Mozilla is not good, but they are the lesser evil of the two, considering Google is known as being:

        • NSA partner and collecting data and spy on users in googolplex capacity

        • AI used by US military for drone bombing in foreign countries based on metadata Google collects on smartphones (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-project-maven-drone-warfare-artificial-intelligence)

        • use dark patterns in their software to make users accept their TOS to spy

        • repeated lies about how their data collection works claiming anonymity

        • forcing users to use their Play Services which is spyware and scareware

        • monopolising the web and internet via AMP, FLOC and now DRM proposal

        • use of non standard web browser libraries and known attempts to cripple lone standing ethical competitors like Firefox and Gecko web engine (now with Microsoft making their default Edge Chromium-based too)

        Moreover, Firefox’s UI is incomparably superior to that of Chrome, even without considering the infinite userchrome.css customisations. The fact that you can have a dedicated search box, extensions movable and a download list button on the toolbar makes Firefox incomparable.

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          Moreover, Firefox’s UI is incomparably superior to that of Chrome.

          No. It’s crap. Utter crap.

          without considering the infinite userchrome.css customisations.

          “Unsupported” and surely an incentive for less tech-savvy people to look elewhere. But whatever. I’ won’t bother to reply to anything else, as you’re statistically one of these persons that spend their life watching crappy youtube videos and buying shit on Amazon.

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            No. It’s crap. Utter crap.

            I see no reasoning from you on why Firefox’s customisable UI is crappier than Chrome based browsers’ UI, or on double standards of morality regarding Brave CEO’s anti LGBT right funding, or on all the other stuff you are saying. Nothing sounds coherent or reasonable. I am not your r/privacy mod who uses iPhone and Google Chrome on Windows, I daily Debian and write guides.

            “Unsupported” and surely an incentive for less tech-savvy people to look elewhere

            How is userchrome.css unsupported on Firefox? And where is this customisability on Chrome based browsers?

            spend their life watching crappy youtube videos and buying shit on Amazon

            Interesting approach to convince people.

            I have received about a dozen reports against you for trolling. If you want to be Brave™ here, will you take the L and move on, or do you need the hammer? I will not hesitate in the future, unlike now.