Using firefox but concerned now

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Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    6 days ago

    I use FireDragon, because it’s the only browser I could find that has a vertical tab-bar that collapses. Supposedly Zen does it, too, but I couldn’t get it to work.

    FireDragon also has a toolbar to the side with a notepad and other neat stuff. I haven’t used that yet, but it could be cool.

  • Patrik@lemm.ee
    2·
    6 days ago

    Fennec on mobile, haven’t gotten around to replacing FF on Desktop yet.

  • SunRed@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    1·
    6 days ago

    Currently on Firefox with Betterfox and Lepton. I might change it to Librewolf as a base for its better defaults. Ungoogled Chromium flatpak when I need a Chromium browser. Fennec on GrapheneOS for its extension support even if it might not be as secure compared to Vanadium.

  • Xed@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    7 days ago

    I used to use variations of Firefox but I got tired of websites not being compatible so sometimes I use chrome 🤷

  • InvisibleRasta@lemmy.ml
    1·
    7 days ago

    Waterfox is based on esr, so quite outdated. Just use librewolf and some css. You have firefox-one that will make it look pretty and similar to zen. Zen is no good if you care about privacy.

  • verdigris@lemmy.ml
    471·
    8 days ago

    Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the “direction being worrisome”. Well, I’ll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it’s still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.

    • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comOPEnglish
      83·
      8 days ago

      I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data

      • verdigris@lemmy.ml
        10·
        8 days ago

        What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.

        It’s always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I’ll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.

      • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
        67·
        8 days ago

        It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge

  • kazaika@lemmy.world
    373·
    9 days ago

    Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.

    Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished

    • Peasley@lemmy.world
      7·
      8 days ago

      Same. I’m not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.

      I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they’ve pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i’m going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it’s Mozilla.

      That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n’t) changed.

      Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.

      RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers

      • MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish
        22·
        8 days ago

        I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I’ve used for 25+ years and I appreciate the “login anywhere and get your same setup” functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.

        • enemenemu@lemm.ee
          4·
          8 days ago

          You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it’s really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation

  • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
    18·
    9 days ago

    I’m a Firefox user and I’m not really that bothered about this tos changes. If they do mess things up I’ll probably just switch to some fork that doesn’t do the fuckery.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Mint packages Firefox with it (whatever “it” is) disabled, since they build Thunderbird without telemetry.

  • icogniito@lemmy.zipEnglish
    18·
    8 days ago

    Zen, absolutely love the workflow and the fact that it is not chromium based.

    Waiting excitedly for ladybird, it is already very impressive but still years left until it is daily drive able

    • dino@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      Basically a firefox skin, although they have a VPN as a sponsor, did somebody did a thorough check on that browser?

    • Fluxxr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      8 days ago

      I like zen a lot but I’m struggling to drag a tab from one window to another. The sidebar always collapses on the target window before the tab gets there. Any tips?

      • ___@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Perhaps right click on the sidebar -> disable compact mode? I haven’t had any issues moving tabs between windows, but then again I keep the sidebar persistent