isnt the LOTO procedure to ask the person listed on the tag whats wrong with it before actually trying to use it. Boss ego crazy to completely just ignore the tag without understanding why it was on there in the first place.
At my place of work, we have a switch that has been locked out for over a decade. The dude doesn’t even work there anymore. Perhaps isn’t alive. It isn’t critical, but our LOTO trainings don’t cover that possibility.
That’s actually exactly how it should work. The switch isn’t necessary, or someone would have called in an expert to fix it, so it hasn’t been fixed and remains locked.
Then you need an expert on the equipment. If the person who tagged it out didn’t document why, and isn’t available to answer questions, then someone needs to do a full diagnostic and maintenance on whatever it is. Really, asking the person who failed to document the reason shouldn’t even be considered an option. Memories are unreliable. Anyone with the authority to lock out equipment should be trained on the procedure.
The original person who locked the switch fucked up, but that sort of fuckup is precisely why LOTO procedures exist. Safety regs are written in blood. 500 years ago, some well-meaning technician found some equipment that was broken and put it aside to fix later. One of their colleagues found the equipment, not realizing it was broken, tried to use it and immediately died a gruesome death.
Safety is diametric to convenience. Somebody cuts a corner somewhere, and the safest thing to do is overreact.
Gotcha, i have plenty of training in LOTO. Was merely commenting about something being locked out, and then the operator having moved on while leaving it locked out. I found it amusing.
The switch is actually operable, just locked out bc we no longer use the gas heaters they control.
Oh yeah. If he wasn’t the guy with the hiring and firing job he would have been walked off that day. He’s easily the worst boss I ever had. Started planning my escape after that. The company had a real problem with sunk cost fallacy. ‘‘Well we invested so much in him’’ was the adittude.
isnt the LOTO procedure to ask the person listed on the tag whats wrong with it before actually trying to use it. Boss ego crazy to completely just ignore the tag without understanding why it was on there in the first place.
At my place of work, we have a switch that has been locked out for over a decade. The dude doesn’t even work there anymore. Perhaps isn’t alive. It isn’t critical, but our LOTO trainings don’t cover that possibility.
That’s actually exactly how it should work. The switch isn’t necessary, or someone would have called in an expert to fix it, so it hasn’t been fixed and remains locked.
But what if we wanted to tag it back in?
Then you need an expert on the equipment. If the person who tagged it out didn’t document why, and isn’t available to answer questions, then someone needs to do a full diagnostic and maintenance on whatever it is. Really, asking the person who failed to document the reason shouldn’t even be considered an option. Memories are unreliable. Anyone with the authority to lock out equipment should be trained on the procedure.
The original person who locked the switch fucked up, but that sort of fuckup is precisely why LOTO procedures exist. Safety regs are written in blood. 500 years ago, some well-meaning technician found some equipment that was broken and put it aside to fix later. One of their colleagues found the equipment, not realizing it was broken, tried to use it and immediately died a gruesome death.
Safety is diametric to convenience. Somebody cuts a corner somewhere, and the safest thing to do is overreact.
Gotcha, i have plenty of training in LOTO. Was merely commenting about something being locked out, and then the operator having moved on while leaving it locked out. I found it amusing.
The switch is actually operable, just locked out bc we no longer use the gas heaters they control.
Oh yeah. If he wasn’t the guy with the hiring and firing job he would have been walked off that day. He’s easily the worst boss I ever had. Started planning my escape after that. The company had a real problem with sunk cost fallacy. ‘‘Well we invested so much in him’’ was the adittude.