• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    You don’t understand how undermining someone’s gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?

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      5 months ago

      No.

      Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don’t want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.

      If someone is arachnophobic that doesn’t mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.

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          5 months ago

          This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.

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            5 months ago

            They’re arguing that being sexually attracted to something is a phobia, the definition of which is having an irrational fear of something.

            Do you really think this person has the ability to string enough words together to justify their opinion?

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              5 months ago

              Did you read the original reddit thread? Chasers are dangerous to the trans community. It isn’t about being attracted to trans individuals, it’s about specifically seeking them out for being trans and fetishizing them being trans.

              Can you not see how this may look if you are the trans person in this relationship?

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                  5 months ago

                  I’m not stupid, I know it means “fear of.” Do you think Homophobes are “afraid” of gay people? What abiut transphobes? In the context of bigotry, phobia is used to refer to invalidating or undermining ones sexuality, gender identity, etc.

                  Literally talk to a trans person, or just read through that thread, it isn’t difficult.

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                    5 months ago

                    Do you think Homophobes are “afraid” of gay people?

                    Yes.

                    What abiut transphobes?

                    Also yes.

                    In the context of bigotry, phobia is used to refer to invalidating or undermining ones sexuality, gender identity, etc.

                    That is the outcome of the irrational fear people feel towards those people.

                    Someone attracted to trans people because they are trans would be transphilic, not transphobic.

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          5 months ago

          You’re really gonna have to start writing more than one sentence per comment if you want anyone here to know what the fuck you’re on about

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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            5 months ago

            I wrote a lot more than 1 sentence in the beginning and linked a good thread with a bunch of trans individuals discussing said topic. They aren’t adding anything, just playing semantics with philic vs phobic.