• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    How about their shit and the rest of their garbage? Or raise the tax/fine for not doing so to better fund efforts to clean up the mountain. First option is probably better because then no one has to risk their life cleaning up after other people.

    I get that it’s a crazy achievement to summit the highest point above sea level, a point dozens, if not hundreds have died to reach, but it shouldn’t come at the cost of the environment.

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      7 months ago

      there is enough garbage there now that they could just make the tourist permit require everyone to bring down more than they take up with them

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        7 months ago

        💯

        See rich idiots. Now its a double SECRET hard mode to validate your self worth. Harder than ever before. Heres a trashbag.

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        Honestly, the achievement shouldn’t be who making it to the summit anymore. It should be who removed the most trash. Or a yearly summit+trash removal competition. More impressive than an Olympic gold medal, the Everest Restoration medal!

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      I think they should do a cleaning brigade gauntlet made of potential climbers. If you aclimate and clean well enough you get invited back for the next season depending on performance. Then, at the sherpa’s discretion, you may be allowed to summit. Sort of a “prove your worth first”. I bet the traffic jams and garbage would become a thing of the past.

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      7 months ago

      Actually they do. I believe they’re required to return with a certain amount of trash on their return or they get fined.

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        7 months ago

        As much as permits and stuff cost to summit Everest, we’re talking about people who have the kind of fuck-you-money that they’d probably just pay the fine rather than risk being seen doing any sort of domestic labor like trash picking.

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          That’s exactly what happens from what I understand. The fine is so negligible compared to the rest of the costs for the trip that it can just be paid off.

          '“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class,” comes to mind.

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            7 months ago

            The fine should be enough to pay someone to go up separately and collect the garbage.

            If someone is willing to do that for $50k then the fine should be at least $50k if not more.

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      In fairness it’s $35k to climb it, a third of that goes straight to Nepal and they have thousands climb every year. Surely that’s enough to get some robotics garbage & poop system?.

      I get people should bring their own garbage down but if they’re that rich my point is that they can pay someone else to do it

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        Wonder how much it would cost to install some sort of tube system where you carry up cylinders and can send them down the tube periodically as you climb with your shit and garbage inside and it just slides to the bottom where you take care of it later.

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          Good thought, I’m sure they could fund it very quickly with the amount of revenue going through that damn mountain