I know they exist. I think you’re missing what I’m saying.
Bitwarden is fully free and self hostable. That is how I use it. Bitwarden needs a self hosted webserver. KeePass can use only a cloud provider or self hosted cloud storage and also set up a web vault.
With Bitwarden, if you don’t want that hassle you can use their webvault they host. You cannot do that with keepass. That is what costs the $10/year.
Point is, both are good software that do things a bit differently. I liked KeePass, but I found Bitwarden to do what I wanted better, which was easily sync my passwords across devices without the hassle of self hosting something like Nextcloud. A quick docker container and I’m good.
Maybe some people are fine with keepass and something like Dropbox for sync. And maybe others don’t want to use a public cloud server but also don’t know how or want to host their own instance of a a password manager or cloud server. So they can use something like Bitwarden’s webvault instead, which is free except for TOTP.
Well, I still don’t see the difference, you can run Nextcloud with docker too, with many more tools than just sync folders, even with encrypted data it is still sync to others devices. About Android, I don’t even remember to charge the battery (that’s why I don’t use it for 2FA, many times it is off and battery empty), and I don’t use it unless I need to drive (for GPS + Music, and de-googled), if I need any password on my Android I use KDEConnect to copy-paste logins, so I keep my secret vaults away from smartphone. I don’t think smartphones are that safe to use and store all my passwords.
EDIT: Ok, I can understand people that don’t know how to set up their own services could find that Bitwarden easier. $10/year is very cheap.
I know they exist. I think you’re missing what I’m saying.
Bitwarden is fully free and self hostable. That is how I use it. Bitwarden needs a self hosted webserver. KeePass can use only a cloud provider or self hosted cloud storage and also set up a web vault.
With Bitwarden, if you don’t want that hassle you can use their webvault they host. You cannot do that with keepass. That is what costs the $10/year.
Point is, both are good software that do things a bit differently. I liked KeePass, but I found Bitwarden to do what I wanted better, which was easily sync my passwords across devices without the hassle of self hosting something like Nextcloud. A quick docker container and I’m good.
Maybe some people are fine with keepass and something like Dropbox for sync. And maybe others don’t want to use a public cloud server but also don’t know how or want to host their own instance of a a password manager or cloud server. So they can use something like Bitwarden’s webvault instead, which is free except for TOTP.
Well, I still don’t see the difference, you can run Nextcloud with docker too, with many more tools than just sync folders, even with encrypted data it is still sync to others devices. About Android, I don’t even remember to charge the battery (that’s why I don’t use it for 2FA, many times it is off and battery empty), and I don’t use it unless I need to drive (for GPS + Music, and de-googled), if I need any password on my Android I use KDEConnect to copy-paste logins, so I keep my secret vaults away from smartphone. I don’t think smartphones are that safe to use and store all my passwords.
EDIT: Ok, I can understand people that don’t know how to set up their own services could find that Bitwarden easier. $10/year is very cheap.