I left the headline like the original, but I see this as a massive win for Apple. The device is ridiculously expensive, isn’t even on sale yet and already has 150 apps specifically designed for that.

If Google did this, it wouldn’t even get 150 dedicated apps even years after launch (and the guaranteed demise of it) and even if it was something super cheap like being made of fucking cardboard.

This is something that as an Android user I envy a lot from the Apple ecosystem.

Apple: this is a new feature => devs implement them in their apps the very next day even if it launches officially in 6 months.

Google: this is a new feature => devs ignore it, apps start to support it after 5-6 Android versions

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    It’s not 150 unique apps. The article says:

    It’s not just Netflix, Spotify, and YouTube that don’t have apps for Apple’s Vision Pro at launch.(…) As of this weekend, the AR/VR device’s App Store has just 150+ apps that were updated for the Vision Pro explicitly

    You can watch Netflix on the Vision Pro in a browser but they didn’t create a specific app for it like for example for iOS. 150 other apps were updated to run on the device. We’re not talking about apps that run only on Vision Pro, just apps that have specific Vision Pro version. It’s like if when Apple released the iPad only 150 apps were tested, maybe slightly adapted and marked in AppStore as iPad compatible.

    150 is nothing. There are millions of apps in the AppStore, all (if not all, most) of them could be updated to run on the VisionPro and developers of only 150 bothered to do it. That’s terrible result.

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      150 apps that has been explicitly updated to support a device that’s so expensive that’s guaranteed that nobody would actually buy it is a lot. And it’s not even on sale yet!

      For comparison look at the Microsoft hololens. Similar concept and similar price, announced 8 years ago, can only dream of having 150 useful apps. If i go on the hololens store page it says “Showing 1 - 90 of 321 items” and you can see that are mostly demos or proof of concepts.

      8 years after the launch has just over double the apps for a device that will launch next month

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        You don’t know what effort is needed to update an app for Vision Pro. For most apps it’s probably just marking a checkbox in the XCode and releasing an update. What special features will you add to PCalc? It will just float in front of you like every other app. Do you need to write any special code to make it work on Vision Pro?

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      Most of those millions of apps are crap that hasn’t been updated in years, and they don’t have millions of users (not the kind of users who would by a Vision Pro at launch, anyway). I haven’t read the list but I’m betting the 150 that are here are much more popular and useful for this platform – the kinds of apps that would actively benefit from this technology and that the users actually want and will use.

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        the kinds of apps that would actively benefit from this technology and that the users actually want and will use.

        Pre-installed apps optimized for Vision Pro:

        App Store
        Encounter Dinosaurs
        Files
        Freeform
        Keynote
        Mail
        Messages
        Mindfulness
        Music
        Notes
        Photos
        Safari
        Settings
        Tips
        TV
        

        Here’s a full list of third-party apps confirmed for VisionOS so far:

        Disney+
        Microsoft Excel
        Microsoft Word
        Microsoft Teams
        Zoom
        WebEx
        Adobe Lightroom
        Unity-based apps and games (titles TBC)
        Sky Guide
        

        Yeah, because when I use Safari, Notes and Word what I REALLY need is augmenter reality.

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          because when I use Safari, Notes and Word what I REALLY need is augmenter reality

          You may not realize it, but you actually want AR for everything: pick up some coffee, read some news, take some notes, write them into a document… while still sipping your coffee, and no computers in sight.

          AR is not the tiny dancing characters you see through your phone’s camera, that’s a silly gimmick. AR is the equivalent of picking a bunch of sheets of paper, and having them display the different apps, except without any paper, or taking any physical space, or buying more devices to fill your workspace.

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            read some news, take some notes, write them into a document… while still sipping your coffee,

            Because I cannot sip at my coffee while looking at my monitor? What a strange idea.

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              As strange as looking at your monitor, instead of buying a newspaper that you can take to the bathroom then reuse it when you’re done.

              Having monitors, screens, and other displays scattered around, will be as backwards as the newspaper thing. Why even buy a monitor, when you have all the virtual monitors you might ever want, right there on your head?

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                Sure as long as ‘all the virtual monitors you might ever want’ is exactly one monitor. You do know that Vision Pro can only simulate one display when working with a Mac? We’re talking about specific device not some imaginary thing Apple will release 10 years from now. Jesus, Mac fanboys are just the worst…

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                  We’re talking about specific device

                  I was talking about AR, not a specific device.

                  Jesus, Mac fanboys are just the worst…

                  Right… thanks, but no thanks.

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                    Ok, I see how you could get confused and think we’re talking about some non-existing, future product instead of the device this post is actually about. No problem, this happens.

                    When it comes to AR in general Magic Leap was pushing it hard for a very long time and after they released actual device their value quickly dropped. AR for general public is a gimmick, it doesn’t solve any problems, no one wants it. It has very interesting applications in some very specific fields and definitely will find it uses with professionals but when it comes to your dream of looking at 15 4k screens while sitting on a toilet most people are happy with just their phones.

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      Yeah it’s like the early days of the iPad, when devs could make their iPhone apps available for the iPad as a scaled up version. They weren’t iPad apps, but they were on the store marked as such (and were wildly unusable like that), so the numbers were incredibly misleading.