I’m in the minority here but I got it done to me as a kid (no choice, barely aware etc) and I’m grateful for it. Just way cleaner overall and no discernible difference - there’s the rumor that it affects sensitivity but I’m just as horny as the rest of the damn men are. Also because I was so young (or maybe the docs at the hospital were skilled), the only scar is a tiny scab on the under side that doesn’t affect anything. I wouldn’t endorse it for children but I can’t argue it was terrible either.
It affecting sensitivity is not a rumour, it’s a fact. There are nerve endings in the foreskin. Ergo, it must remove sensitivity. And this can be corroborated by many who get the procedure done as adults.
And the “way cleaner” thing makes zero sense unless you don’t have access to running water. The world outside of the US + Middle East aren’t walking around with dirty dicks, and if you don’t have running water, all of you will be dirty regardless.
There are babies in the US that die each year from circumcision complications. It causes pain. It reduces sensitivity. Plenty of them are done "traditionally’ - i.e. without any pain relief or sterilisation. It leaves scars. 5% of circumcisions are botched, sometimes causing pain and discomfort - particularly during sex - for the man’s whole lifetime.
It’s completely unnecessary, and barbaric.
The fact that we’re in 2024 and there’s still places out there cutting parts of the dick off of babies as a religious or quasi-religious (in the case of the US) ceremony is crazy.
the reason he mentioned the horny bit was ironically the exact reason this was started in the first place, because the man who tried to make a cereal so boring it would kill morning wood, said it would make people less horny (well not just Kellogg but many others as well)
I’m not saying cleanliness is a problem, it’s just easier to clean. If you exercise often, it’s easier to maintain a short hairstyle clean than a long one for example.
‘Horny’ may have not been the best term to use but I hope the message got across. If I was more sensitive before getting cc’d, then I must have had one hell of a hair trigger
Lol how is it cleaner? You just wash your dick and it is clean anyways. You are juat trying to justify it because you dont want to blame your parents for cutting pieces off you to fit their aesthetic.
I’ve had a foreskin all my life and it’s just another part of your body that you learn to care for, like ears.
Also like ears, it takes a little bit of extra work to care for your foreskin, but it’s worth it because not-unlike ears, foreskin heightens your sensitivity to stimuli.
Also, like ears, the idea of lopping it off is barbaric on its face. We in the west are happy to use the descriptive, and more emotionally resonant term ‘genital mutilation’ when we talk about the equally barbaric practice that is forced on females in other cultures, but we still hide behind euphemism and branding when talking about mutilating perfectly good penises.
Also, this is intelligent design? You leave at least two defects in the V1 production push, refuse to release a day 1 patch, and your hot fix for one defect is just to cut if off - eventually, meanwhile the appendix is just left to lurk.
Just to offer a correction to this for you, it is not a “rumor” but physiological fact. Circumcision removes the frenar band, which is very densely innervated and a principal errogenous zone for those that are uncircumcised, additonally, the Meissner’s corpuscles, which contain thousands of touch receptors and tens of thousands of endings that are biologically specialized for sexual pleasure are amputated.
I can’t, personally, attest to the effect as being cut is all that I’ve ever known but, the evidence is undeniable about the fact that circumcision diminishes the male sexual experience.
You’re probably correct. All of this non-consensual body mod shit, for men and women, sucks.
What’s done is done, but I won’t repeat the mistakes. I also harbor no Ill will about it either, I’m living life with the hand I’ve been dealt, and having fun too.
Absolutely! Though, if a low-risk procedure becomes avalable to restore it with full biological functionality (all the nerves, glands, etc), I’ll absolutely get it, if I can. I don’t harbor ill will either as, probably, none of those involved had any idea, with how commonplace it is in the US.
I’m just happy that I wasn’t the recipient of a botched circumcision and that they are pretty uncommon in the developed world at somewhere around 0.6% but in some developing nations that shoots up to a reported 5%. And that’s a pretty fucked up amount of risk to subject one who cannot consent to such a procedure to.
Getting it done as an adult is fine. You consented. I’m also fine with piercings or tattoos on adults but not on babies for the same reason. Though that’s a bit of a false equivalence as genital mutilation is more dangerous and less reversible than those other two, so I guess I find them less objectionable, though still fucked up.
Getting it done out of medical necessity is also fine, for pretty obvious reasons.
Because he’s A) talking nonsense, and B) making genital mutilation of babies sound like it’s not that bad.
You want part of your dick cut off? Cool. Do it when you’re old enough to consent to it. Genuinely. If that’s what floats your boat, then do it. People should have the right to body autonomy. Slice your ear off as well if that’s what you’re into. Anything.
If this were about tattooing babies, or piercing them, or cutting off their earlobes, everyone would rightly be against it (even though all of these are less dangerous and less likely to have complications).
It’s only because Americans, Jews, and Muslims are used to this practice that they accept it. If it were a new thing, it would be seen as the barbaric practice that it truly is.
I believe there’s also the element of “well if I admit that circumcision of babies is wrong, that means there’s something wrong with my penis. And I don’t want there to be something wrong with my penis. Therefore I’m on the side of genital mutilation being ok.”
God damn you have some serious issues my dude. Sorry your parents traumatized you but you need to calm down and stop attacking people who have different opinions than you. He said he got it done and he was grateful for it, let it go and stop downvote brigading because he doesn’t fall into line with your cronies. The whole Brogan anti circumcision crew from Reddit was one of the cringiest groups that I wish never migrated over to lemmy. They were so self righteous about their stance they would never listen to arguments from the other side, and were 1000% convinced everyone else was a monster.
I for one am happy mine was done, my dick is plenty sensitive and it doesn’t look like a crusty ant eater. My sexual partners have been very thankful for the same, and I’ve received numerous compliments to the same. The truth is, most women find uncircumcised dick to be pretty gross. I can see a few reasons for that, and one of them is simply the look, but the other is because more than a few of them had to deal with a dirty fucking uncut guy who didn’t wash probably and it was nasty af and left them with a bad impression of uncut guys.
No issues here. I’m against mutilating the genitals of babies, like a normal person.
The people who have serious issues are the ones who get happy at the thought of taking a newborn baby and slicing part of their dick off. They are brainwashed.
You’ll notice I said it’s good that he likes his circumcision. Just that it should’ve been done as an adult, with consent. Not forced on him as a baby.
I’m sorry that you view cutting off parts of babies’ dicks to be a great cause worthy of championing. That’s pretty sad. That cutting off parts of babies in a needless procedure that frequently goes wrong is something that gets your mutilated dick hard.
And yeah, being pro baby mutilation is something that a monster would like. Unironically, to mutilate the genitalia of babies is something we should view as being the actions of a monster. But religion drives people to do crazy things.
Hahahaha most women absolutely do not find normal, un-mutilated dicks to be ugly. Quit making shit up.
I’m really sorry you got mutilated as a baby. Genuinely. Hope the scarring isn’t too bad and you were one of the lucky majority who don’t get a botched circumcision. But you need to get over this insecurity about your dick.
“well if I admit that circumcision of babies is wrong, that means there’s something wrong with my penis. And I don’t want there to be something wrong with my penis. Therefore I’m on the side of genital mutilation being ok.”
Yeah, the people against mutilating the genitals of babies are irrational when they talk about how fucked up they think forced genital mutilation is.
It’s definitely not the people who dogmatically defend cutting off parts of baby genitalia despite all the suffering and issues it causes, who are behaving irrationally.
If you want to have parts of your dick chopped off, more power to ya. But do it when you’re a consenting adult.
This is a barbaric practice that itself is only a surrogate for the much more barbaric practice of child sacrifice.
To suggest discussion of it moved beyond any kind of rationality is laughable because its very foundation is a rejection of rationality.
Let’s have a rational discussion: what is your best, rational, science-backed reason for supporting the nonconsensual mutilation of male infants?
I know some of those words are emotionally provocative but they are 100% accurate and simply not cloaked in polite euphemism, and you need to engage with each of them on a rational basis.
They are not downvoting him for being circumcised, but for the (incorrect) information following that fact. I’d be pissed too if I couldn’t read, so get my upvote.
I’m in the minority here but I got it done to me as a kid (no choice, barely aware etc) and I’m grateful for it. Just way cleaner overall and no discernible difference - there’s the rumor that it affects sensitivity but I’m just as horny as the rest of the damn men are. Also because I was so young (or maybe the docs at the hospital were skilled), the only scar is a tiny scab on the under side that doesn’t affect anything. I wouldn’t endorse it for children but I can’t argue it was terrible either.
It affecting sensitivity is not a rumour, it’s a fact. There are nerve endings in the foreskin. Ergo, it must remove sensitivity. And this can be corroborated by many who get the procedure done as adults.
And the “way cleaner” thing makes zero sense unless you don’t have access to running water. The world outside of the US + Middle East aren’t walking around with dirty dicks, and if you don’t have running water, all of you will be dirty regardless.
There are babies in the US that die each year from circumcision complications. It causes pain. It reduces sensitivity. Plenty of them are done "traditionally’ - i.e. without any pain relief or sterilisation. It leaves scars. 5% of circumcisions are botched, sometimes causing pain and discomfort - particularly during sex - for the man’s whole lifetime.
It’s completely unnecessary, and barbaric.
The fact that we’re in 2024 and there’s still places out there cutting parts of the dick off of babies as a religious or quasi-religious (in the case of the US) ceremony is crazy.
Ah, noted. Maybe I was lucky
Your brain compensates for a lot of the missing nerves. Just imagine the orgasm with em all still there lol.
It’s “way cleaner” in the same way that spraying fabric freshener on a pair of shit stained underwear is "way cleaner’.
If you wash your dick the cleanliness isn’t a problem
Also sensitivity has nothing to do with how horny you are.
the reason he mentioned the horny bit was ironically the exact reason this was started in the first place, because the man who tried to make a cereal so boring it would kill morning wood, said it would make people less horny (well not just Kellogg but many others as well)
Fun fact: the same guy also wanted to burn girls’ clits with acid so they wouldn’t masturbate either, though that didn’t catch on.
I’m not saying cleanliness is a problem, it’s just easier to clean. If you exercise often, it’s easier to maintain a short hairstyle clean than a long one for example.
‘Horny’ may have not been the best term to use but I hope the message got across. If I was more sensitive before getting cc’d, then I must have had one hell of a hair trigger
Dude, as someone who was cut as an adult (medical reasons) i can tell you that the change in sensitivity is H.U.G.E.
I have WAY less sensitivity afterwards and it gets worse over time.
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Lol how is it cleaner? You just wash your dick and it is clean anyways. You are juat trying to justify it because you dont want to blame your parents for cutting pieces off you to fit their aesthetic.
I’ve had a foreskin all my life and it’s just another part of your body that you learn to care for, like ears.
Also like ears, it takes a little bit of extra work to care for your foreskin, but it’s worth it because not-unlike ears, foreskin heightens your sensitivity to stimuli.
Also, like ears, the idea of lopping it off is barbaric on its face. We in the west are happy to use the descriptive, and more emotionally resonant term ‘genital mutilation’ when we talk about the equally barbaric practice that is forced on females in other cultures, but we still hide behind euphemism and branding when talking about mutilating perfectly good penises.
Also, this is intelligent design? You leave at least two defects in the V1 production push, refuse to release a day 1 patch, and your hot fix for one defect is just to cut if off - eventually, meanwhile the appendix is just left to lurk.
Goods not as advertised.
Just to offer a correction to this for you, it is not a “rumor” but physiological fact. Circumcision removes the frenar band, which is very densely innervated and a principal errogenous zone for those that are uncircumcised, additonally, the Meissner’s corpuscles, which contain thousands of touch receptors and tens of thousands of endings that are biologically specialized for sexual pleasure are amputated.
I can’t, personally, attest to the effect as being cut is all that I’ve ever known but, the evidence is undeniable about the fact that circumcision diminishes the male sexual experience.
You’re probably correct. All of this non-consensual body mod shit, for men and women, sucks.
What’s done is done, but I won’t repeat the mistakes. I also harbor no Ill will about it either, I’m living life with the hand I’ve been dealt, and having fun too.
Absolutely! Though, if a low-risk procedure becomes avalable to restore it with full biological functionality (all the nerves, glands, etc), I’ll absolutely get it, if I can. I don’t harbor ill will either as, probably, none of those involved had any idea, with how commonplace it is in the US.
I’m just happy that I wasn’t the recipient of a botched circumcision and that they are pretty uncommon in the developed world at somewhere around 0.6% but in some developing nations that shoots up to a reported 5%. And that’s a pretty fucked up amount of risk to subject one who cannot consent to such a procedure to.
Man, just wash your dick. Everyone should wash their dick
Hmm
While we’re at it: No, washing your ass doesn’t make you gay, America. Being gay makes you gay.
Do… Do Americans not wash their asses?
Of course they do. The internet was a mistake.
Most Americans wash their asses, but you will find all forms of Idiocracy here.
I got it done as an adult for medical reasons. I stand fully behind everything you said. But: I don’t have any scar whatsoever
Getting it done as an adult is fine. You consented. I’m also fine with piercings or tattoos on adults but not on babies for the same reason. Though that’s a bit of a false equivalence as genital mutilation is more dangerous and less reversible than those other two, so I guess I find them less objectionable, though still fucked up.
Getting it done out of medical necessity is also fine, for pretty obvious reasons.
Forcing it upon a baby for no reason isn’t.
Have you noticed any loss of sensation compared to before the procedure?
Nope, not that I’m aware of.
Why do people downvote you for just sharing your experience in a manner? I’m circumcised too and glad that I am.
Because he’s A) talking nonsense, and B) making genital mutilation of babies sound like it’s not that bad.
You want part of your dick cut off? Cool. Do it when you’re old enough to consent to it. Genuinely. If that’s what floats your boat, then do it. People should have the right to body autonomy. Slice your ear off as well if that’s what you’re into. Anything.
If this were about tattooing babies, or piercing them, or cutting off their earlobes, everyone would rightly be against it (even though all of these are less dangerous and less likely to have complications).
It’s only because Americans, Jews, and Muslims are used to this practice that they accept it. If it were a new thing, it would be seen as the barbaric practice that it truly is.
I believe there’s also the element of “well if I admit that circumcision of babies is wrong, that means there’s something wrong with my penis. And I don’t want there to be something wrong with my penis. Therefore I’m on the side of genital mutilation being ok.”
God damn you have some serious issues my dude. Sorry your parents traumatized you but you need to calm down and stop attacking people who have different opinions than you. He said he got it done and he was grateful for it, let it go and stop downvote brigading because he doesn’t fall into line with your cronies. The whole Brogan anti circumcision crew from Reddit was one of the cringiest groups that I wish never migrated over to lemmy. They were so self righteous about their stance they would never listen to arguments from the other side, and were 1000% convinced everyone else was a monster.
I for one am happy mine was done, my dick is plenty sensitive and it doesn’t look like a crusty ant eater. My sexual partners have been very thankful for the same, and I’ve received numerous compliments to the same. The truth is, most women find uncircumcised dick to be pretty gross. I can see a few reasons for that, and one of them is simply the look, but the other is because more than a few of them had to deal with a dirty fucking uncut guy who didn’t wash probably and it was nasty af and left them with a bad impression of uncut guys.
No issues here. I’m against mutilating the genitals of babies, like a normal person.
The people who have serious issues are the ones who get happy at the thought of taking a newborn baby and slicing part of their dick off. They are brainwashed.
You’ll notice I said it’s good that he likes his circumcision. Just that it should’ve been done as an adult, with consent. Not forced on him as a baby.
I’m sorry that you view cutting off parts of babies’ dicks to be a great cause worthy of championing. That’s pretty sad. That cutting off parts of babies in a needless procedure that frequently goes wrong is something that gets your mutilated dick hard.
And yeah, being pro baby mutilation is something that a monster would like. Unironically, to mutilate the genitalia of babies is something we should view as being the actions of a monster. But religion drives people to do crazy things.
Hahahaha most women absolutely do not find normal, un-mutilated dicks to be ugly. Quit making shit up.
I’m really sorry you got mutilated as a baby. Genuinely. Hope the scarring isn’t too bad and you were one of the lucky majority who don’t get a botched circumcision. But you need to get over this insecurity about your dick.
Because this particular internet conversation moved beyond any kind of rationality somewhere around 2002
Yeah, the people against mutilating the genitals of babies are irrational when they talk about how fucked up they think forced genital mutilation is.
It’s definitely not the people who dogmatically defend cutting off parts of baby genitalia despite all the suffering and issues it causes, who are behaving irrationally.
If you want to have parts of your dick chopped off, more power to ya. But do it when you’re a consenting adult.
This is a barbaric practice that itself is only a surrogate for the much more barbaric practice of child sacrifice.
To suggest discussion of it moved beyond any kind of rationality is laughable because its very foundation is a rejection of rationality.
Let’s have a rational discussion: what is your best, rational, science-backed reason for supporting the nonconsensual mutilation of male infants?
I know some of those words are emotionally provocative but they are 100% accurate and simply not cloaked in polite euphemism, and you need to engage with each of them on a rational basis.
I eagerly await your thoughts.
The more time I spend on Lemmy the more I realize people here are just the worst.
Those people against genital mutilation of babies are the worst.
Like who the fuck do they think they are? I can cut whatever I want from babies. I don’t hear them declining consent. Checkmate, infants.
I’m against circumcision too.
I didn’t downvote a guy who had it done to him against his will for sharing his personal experience.
They are not downvoting him for being circumcised, but for the (incorrect) information following that fact. I’d be pissed too if I couldn’t read, so get my upvote.
Most people think this, however this is the Internet where minorities shout the loudest.
Sometimes the majority be stupid. I know, I know, hard to believe. Remember the Geocentric model?