Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
That is correct. Not sure if you were trying to dispute my comment but to clarify, the remark I was making is that slavery =/= imprisonment on its own. Slavery = imprisonment + work.
It is torture on its own, which might be the more critical point. The extent varies, but spending time in most of the world’s prisons still break your mental health in ways that will only make reintegration back into society harder in the end.
We almost all know this already, which is the tragic part.
spending time in most of the world’s prisons still break your mental health in ways that will only make reintegration back into society harder in the end.
True only in specific cases: mostly your statement is bullshit.
There are far, far too many innocent people in prison: far too many who never deserve to be there. Many who fit the description of harder to reintegrate after the experience.
But prison absolutely can be the right thing for some. There are criminals who will not reintegrate without reform, and the prison system serves that purpose in more enlightened countries. Look at recidivism rates outside of the US to see how some people can reform with time away from society.
We need prisons. I expect 90% of people in prison are worse off from the experience but that 10% is important to society.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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That is correct. Not sure if you were trying to dispute my comment but to clarify, the remark I was making is that slavery =/= imprisonment on its own. Slavery = imprisonment + work.
It is torture on its own, which might be the more critical point. The extent varies, but spending time in most of the world’s prisons still break your mental health in ways that will only make reintegration back into society harder in the end.
We almost all know this already, which is the tragic part.
True only in specific cases: mostly your statement is bullshit.
There are far, far too many innocent people in prison: far too many who never deserve to be there. Many who fit the description of harder to reintegrate after the experience.
But prison absolutely can be the right thing for some. There are criminals who will not reintegrate without reform, and the prison system serves that purpose in more enlightened countries. Look at recidivism rates outside of the US to see how some people can reform with time away from society.
We need prisons. I expect 90% of people in prison are worse off from the experience but that 10% is important to society.