• Nagarjuna [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      We’re at the stage in humor where instead of telling jokes, we’re conditioning ourselves to laugh at an increasingly horrifying reality.

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    This is why grass roots is so important.i struggle to believe in anything that isn’t bottom up motivated.

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      1. People say that because they don’t know what it feels like. Basically, they’re projecting

      2. Technically one can argue fairly that it doesn’t exist, but that argument would be about semantics. Doing something good for others at the expense of yourself either because it feels good to do, or because somewhere in your brain you think there will be good karma or a celestial reward, well… maybe those aren’t truly “altruism”, but can anybody tell the goddamned difference in the grand scheme of things?

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        Insightful comments.

        Glad the propaganda isn’t affecting people.

        I thought people would jump on this anti billionaire post.

        But you’re right, it’s trying to incite class war.

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          What’s wrong with being anti-billionaire?

          If a dragon were hoarding all the gold in your village and leaving the villagers to get fucked, would you be pro-dragon?

          (Yeah it’s a Terry Pratchett novel.)

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            But that’s the point, They’re not hoarding ALL the gold, your point is based in hyperbolie and is ridiculous.

            We have a lot in this day and age.

            Food, shelter, international travel, computers, cars, global internet etc etc

            And making the argument that we have nothing and they have everything is absurd.

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          Horseshit. A few thousand billionaires doesn’t constitute a “class” in a world of billions of people. That’s not a matter of “class,” it’s a fucking oligarchy.

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            Wow you’re pretty angry.

            You should try to be happier, your hate is making you dumb

            It’s not that complicated

            It’s a rich Vs the poor trope.

            It’s trying to incite hate and disillusionment in society.

            Billionaires create many things millions use. Just because they have a lot of money didn’t make them intrinsically bad.

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              I do not hate billionaires for being billionaires. But I’m against a system that unjustly and inefficiently concentrates wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer people while basic necessities such as housing become unaffordable because the beneficiaries of that system are turning it into an investment through which extract more wealth from the people below themselves.

              Billionaires create many things millions use. Just because they have a lot of money didn’t make them intrinsically bad.

              To illustrate how bad this argument is. Middle Ages nobles made contributions to society in the form of collecting taxes, managing land and organizing armies. That doesn’t mean that feudalism isn’t a bollocks system nor that you shouldn’t come up with ways of collecting taxes, managing land and organizing armies that don’t incentivize privilege and corruption.

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                I agree that concentrated wealth isn’t an efficient distribution.

                So what can we do, 100% taxes over a million?

                What’s the incentive then to work harder if you earn over a million?

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                  If you’re are literally working so hard that you’re 100 times more productive than someone earning minimum wage, take a vacation. If you don’t want to, it’s clear that money isn’t what motivates you the most when you choose to continue working.

                  Of course, you must be really ignorant to believe that people earn 100 times more than someone earning minimum wage because they’re 100 times more productive. Your capacity to produce is not the same as your capacity to earn money.

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      It’s the reverse, actually. Story writers modeled super villains after these people.

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        And they modeled their heroes on their crooked world view.

        Exit: for everyone that doesn’t get what I’m saying, Hollywood is filled with crypto libertarians. Marvel’s Infinity War/Endgame was about an evil environmentalist vs the good guy billionaire who could have solved climate change while he was taking a shit, but choose to punch bad guys instead. Kingsman is an even more extreme example Neo libertarian morality tale. And whenever a pro environment movie comes out, audiences always hate it. Shows how effective their propaganda is.

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            True. Success in Hollywood requires a certain personality type that heavily favors liberalism. The rags to riches ones suddenly believe that all it takes is talent and can’t cope with the reality that luck was a major factor in their success and that they could never be in the gutter again.

            If we’re bringing up literature though, the first Harry Potter book was ok, but certain personality traits of the author started getting amplified with her Rock Star like success. Harry was much more charitable in the first book compared later ones.

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    I mean if AI keeps getting neutered with misinformation and refusing to use science because it might hurt someone’s feelings then that panel is certainly a reality

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      Is AI really being handicapped that badly? I mean I knew certain topics were blocked off with the biggest public chat bots, but the machine learning data is still there, no?

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        Yeah it really is

        If it says anything that the current message doesn’t agree with it will scrap all of that data

        Feed it a bunch of scientific journals but then it says there are 2 genders? Scrap it all, no science for you

        Feed it crime data and it starts noticing patterns that we don’t like knowing? Scrap it all, data is misinformation

        That’s why I just laugh at people who say it’ll take over jobs

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          Well, to be fair, it is being fed data made by humans, so realistically its conclusions will be made likely following the ideas of past human inputs, no?

          And if those results are ideas that the creators would rather not progress with, shouldn’t they cull the outdated ones?

          I’m not speaking to any topics in particular, but the concept of AI creators shaping their creations. After all, if an AI told you the world was flat, wouldn’t you want to change its data to prevent it from producing results speaking so?

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            Yeah feeding it facts and statistics

            shouldn’t they cull the outdated ones?

            No they shouldn’t at all. Do you not learn from mistakes or understand how propaganda works?

            . After all, if an AI told you the world was flat,

            It won’t, it is fed scientific data. Which is what the modern woke don’t like, it may mention that we used to think the world was flat and how we discovered that not to be the case and people can ask all sorts of questions and it should be able to answer but if we did what they are doing and what you want because being short sighted is popular, is that it won’t be able to answer why it isn’t, why we thought it was and how we came to the scientifically backed conclusion that it is round.

            That’s the problem with modern woke politics. It’s just “our way or you’re a bigotaistphobe” no learning or backing up claims just “this is our truth”

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    To be fair, if I was a billionaire and I had the choice of helping ordinary people or doing something awesome, I would definitely pick to do something awesome. I respect Bill Gates for fighting malaria, but I would go for spaceships or robots.

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      Which is why not you, nor them should have so much money. We need to prevent idiots from doing idiot things by redistributing their wealth.

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      But if it’s something awesome marketed towards saving humanity then do something actually awesome and impactful instead of distracting bullshit like hyperloops and Mars colonies on unrealistic time-frames and self-driving cars instead of public transportation. Endless talk and grand gestures when these people have the resources to really drive improvements/innovations in achievable realistic projects.

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              Lol it’s not virtue signaling it’s malicious compliance. My workplace has vacation and sick days pull from the same incredibly small pool. They’re also very anti work from home. So since I’ve explained the problem and was told to just take vacation time when I’m sick, I decided to just not “be sick” and explain the problem when it comes up next