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Mid 2022, a friend of mine helped me set up a selfhosted Vaultwarden instance. Since then, my “infrastructure” has not stopped growing, and I’ve been learning each and every day about how services work, how they communicate and how I can move data from one place to another. It’s truly incredible, and my favorite hobby by a long shot.
Here’s a map of what I’ve built so far. Right now, I’m mostly done, but surely time will bring more ideas. I’ve also left out a bunch of “technically revelant” connections like DNS resolution through the AdGuard instance, firewalls and CrowdSec on the main VPS.
Looking at the setups that others have posted, I don’t think this is super incredible - but if you have input or questions about the setup, I’ll do my best to explain it all. None of my peers really understand what it takes to construct something like this, so I am in need of people who understand my excitement and proudness :)
Edit: the image was compressed a bit too much, so here’s the full res image for the curious: https://files.catbox.moe/iyq5vx.png And a dark version for the night owls: https://files.catbox.moe/hy713z.png
me after 15 years of intermittent learning self hosting:
i have the one random office PC that runs minecraft
…yeah that’s it
Nice
Only host what you need.
With the enshittification of streaming platforms, a Kodi or Jellyfin server would be a great starting point. In my case, I have both, and the Kodi machine gets the files from the Jellyfin machine through NFS.
Or Home Assistant to help keep IOT devices that tend to be more IoS. Or a Nextcloud server to try to degoogle at least a little bit.
Maybe a personal Friendica instance for your LAN so your family can get their Facebook addiction without giving their data to Meta?
Additionally, using jottacloud with 2 VPS’s (one of them being built on epyc like from OVH cloud) can get you a really good download server and streaming server for about £30 a month, which is the same as having netflix and Disney plus, except now you can have anything you want.
I have a contabo 4core 8gb ram VPS that handles downloading content.
A OVH 4core 8gb VPS that handles emby (I keep trying to go back to jellyfin but it’s just slightly slower than emby at transcoding and I need to squeeze as much performance out of my VPS as possible so… Maybe one day jelly)
And I have a really good streaming experience with subtitles that don’t put big black boxes on the screen making 1/8th of the screen non viewable.
I’ve saved this. I set up unraid and docker, have the home media server going, but I’m absolutely overwhelmed trying to understand reverse proxy, Caddy, NGINX and the security framework. I guess that’s my next goal.
Hey! I’m also running my homelab on unraid! :D
The reverse proxy basically allows you to open only one port on your machine for generic web traffic, instead of opening (and exposing) a port for each app individually. You then address each app by a certain hostname / Domain path, so either something like
movies.myhomelab.comormyhomelab.com/movies.The issue is that you’ll have to point your domain directly at your home IP. Which then means that whenever you share a link to an app on your homelab, you also indirectly leak your home location (to the degree that IP location allows). Which I simply do not feel comfortable with. The easy solution is running the traffic through Cloudflare (this can be set up in 15 minutes), but they impose traffic restrictions on free plans, so it’s out of the question for media or cloud apps.
That’s what my proxy VPS is for. Basically cloudflare tunnels rebuilt. An encrypted, direct tunnel between my homelab and a remote server in a datacenter, meaning I expose no port at home, and visitors connect to that datacenter IP instead of my home one. There is also no one in between my two servers, so I don’t give up any privacy. Comes with near zero bandwith loss in both directions too! And it requires near zero computational power, so it’s all running on a machine costing me 3,50 a month.
I appreciate this thoughtful reply. I read it a few times, I think I understand the goal. Basically you’re systematically closing off points that leak private information or constitute a security weakness. The IP address and the ports.
For the VPS, in order for that to have no bandwidth loss, does that mean it’s only used for domain resolution but clients actually connect directly to your own server? If not and if all data has to pass through a data center, I’d assume that makes service more unreliable?
Your first paragraph hits the nail on the head. From what I’ve read, bots all over the net will find any openly exposed ports in no time and start attacking it blindly, putting strain on your router and a general risk into your home network.
Regarding bandwith: 100% of the traffic via the domain name (not local network) runs through the proxy server. But these datacenters have 1 to 10 gigabit uplinks, so the slowest link in the chain is usually your home internet connection. Which, in my case, is 500mbit down and 50mbit up. And that’s easily saturated on both directions by the tunnel and VPS. plus, streaming a 4K BluRay remux usually only requires between 35 and 40 mbit of upload speed, so speed is rarely a worry.
bots all over the net will find any openly exposed ports in no time and start attacking it blindly,
True.
putting strain on your router
I guess? Not more than it can handle mind. But sure there will be a bit of traffic. But this is also kinda true whether you expose ports or not. The scanning is relentless.
and a general risk into your home network.
Well…If your proxy forwards traffic to your home network you’re still effectively exposing your home network to the internt. There’s just a hop in between. Scans that attack the web applications mostly don’t know or care about your proxy. If I hacked a service through the proxy I still gain access to your home network.
That said, having crowdstrike add a layer of protection here is a good thing to potentially catch something you didn’t know about (eg a forgotten default admin password). But having it on a different network over a vpn doesn’t seem to add any value here?
You make a good point. But I still find that directly exposing a port on my home network feels more dangerous than doing so on a remote server. I want to prevent attackers sidestepping the proxy and directly accessing the server itself, which feels more likely to allow circumventing the isolations provided by docker in case of a breach.
Judging from a couple articles I read online, if i wanted to publicly expose a port on my home network, I should also isolate the public server from the rest of the local LAN with a VLAN. For which I’d need to first replace my router, and learn a whole lot more about networking. Doing it this way, which is basically a homemade cloudflare tunnel, lets me rest easier at night.
You make a good point. But I still find that directly exposing a port on my home network feels more dangerous than doing so on a remote server.
You do what makes you feel comfortable, but understand that it’s not a lot safer. It’s not useless though so I wouldn’t say don’t do it. It just feels a bit too much effort for too little gain to me. And maybe isn’t providing the security you think it is.
It’s not “where the port is opened” that matters - it’s “what is exposed to the internet” that matter. When you direct traffic to your home network then your home network is exposed to the internet. Whether though VPN or not.
The proxy server is likely the least vulnerable part of your stack, though I don’t know if “caddy” has a good security reputation. I prefer to use Apache and nginx as they’re tried and true and used by large corporations in production environments for that reason. Your applications are the primary target. Default passwords, vulnerable plugins, known application server vulnerabilities, SQL injections, etc. are what bots are looking for. And your proxy will send those requests whether it’s in a different network or not. That’s where I do like that you have something that will block such “suspect” requests to slow such scanning down.
Your VPS only really makes any sense if you have a firewall in ‘homelab’ that restricts traffic to and from the VPN and specific servers on specific ports. I’m not sure if this is what is indicated by the arrows in and out of the “tailscale” box? Otherwise an attacker with local root on that box will just use your VPN like the proxy does.
So you’re already exposing your applications to the internet. If I compromise your Jellyfin server (through the VPS proxy and VPN) what good is your VPS doing? The first thing an attacker would want to do is setup a bot that reaches out to the internet establishing a back-channel communication direct to your server anyway.
Judging from a couple articles I read online, if i wanted to publicly expose a port on my home network, I should also isolate the public server from the rest of the local LAN with a VLAN.
It’s not “exposing a port that matters” - it’s “providing access to a server.” Which you’ve done. In this case you’re exposing servers on your home network - they’re the targets. So if you want to follow that advice then you should have your servers in a VLAN now.
The reason for separating servers on their own VLAN is to limit the reach an attacker would have should they compromise your server. e.g. so they can’t connect to your other home computers. You would create 2 different networks (e.g. 10.0.10.0/24 and 10.0.20.0/24) and route data between them with a firewall that restricts access. For example 10.0.20.0 can’t connect to 10.0.10.0 but you can connect the other way 'round. That firewall would then stop a compromised server from connecting to systems on the other network (like your laptop, your chromecast, etc.).
I don’t do that because it’s kinda a big bother. It’s certainly better that way, but I think acceptable not to. I wouldn’t die on that hill though.
I want to be careful to say that I’m not saying that anything you’re doing is necessarily wrong or bad. I just don’t want you to misunderstand your security posture.
it’s all running on a machine costing me 3,50 a month.
You could use a cheaper VPS (like a $15/year one) and it should be fine with this use case :)
Very true! For me, that specific server was a chance to try out arm based servers. Also, I initially wanted to spin up something billed on the hour for testing, and then it was so quick to work that I just left it running.
But I’ll keep my eye out for some low spec yearly billed servers, and move sooner or later.
One of my favourite hosts (GreenCloudVPS) has some cheap yearly deals: https://greencloudvps.com/billing/store/budget-kvm-sale. RackNerd have some too: https://racknerdtracker.com/ (third-party site that tracks their deals that are still active).
(I’m not affiliated with either company)
Very nice setup imho. Quite a bit more complicated than mine - mine is basically just the left box without being behind a VPS or anything. I don’t expose anything through Caddy except Jellyfin. I’m also running fail2ban in front of my services, so that if it gets hit with too many 404s because someone is poking around, they get IP banned for 30d
I saved this! Yeah, it seems like a lot of work, but I got inspired again (I had a slight self-hosting burnout and nuked my raspberry setup ~year ago) so I appreciate it. :) Can I ask what hardware you run this on? edit: I just wanted to ramble some more: I just fired up my rPI4 again just last week, setup it with just as barebone VPS with wireguard, samba, jellyfin and pi-hole+unbound (as to not burn myself again :D )
Glad to have gotten you back into the grind!
My homelab runs on an N100 board I ordered on Aliexpress for ~150€, plus some 16GB Corsair DDR5 SODIMM RAM. The Main VPS is a 2 vCPU 4GB RAM machine, and the LabProxy is a 4 vCPU 4GB RAM ARM machine.
What VPS service do you use/recommend and what’s your monthly cost?
I use Hetzner, mainly because of their good uptime, dependable service and being geographically close to me. Its a “safe bet” if you will. Monthly cost, if we’re not counting power usage by the homelab, is about 15 bucks for all three servers.
This is oddly similar to some informal workups I’ve done for our work network.
Nice work 👍.
I have taken a picture and shall study it
I am sorry, I am but a worm just starting Docker and I have two questions.
Say I set up pihole in a container. Then say I use Pihole’s web UI to change a setting, like setting the web UI to the midnight theme.
Do changes persist when the container updates?
I am under the impression that a container updating is the old one being deleted and a fresh install taking its place. So all the changes in settings vanish.
I understand that I am supposed to write files to define parameters of the install. How am I supposed to know what to write to define the changes I want?
Sorry to hijack, the question doesn’t seem big enough for its own post.
With containers, most will have a persistent volume that is mapped to the host filesystem. This is where your config data is. When you update a container, just the image is updated(pihole binaries) but it leaves the config files there. Things like your block lists and custom dns settings, theme settings, all of that will remain.
Thank you.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web HTTPS HTTP over SSL IP Internet Protocol Plex Brand of media server package SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption TCP Transmission Control Protocol, most often over IP VPN Virtual Private Network VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) k8s Kubernetes container management package nginx Popular HTTP server
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This seems like work but from/for home.
You should see some of the literal data centers folks have in their houses. It’s nuts.
Sorry if someone already asked this, but do you have any tutorials or guides that you used and found helpful for starting out? I have some small experience with nginx and such, but I would definitely need to follow along with something that tells me what to do and what each part does in a infrastructure like you have haha
That’s a tough one. I’ve pieced this all together from countless guides for each app itself, combined with tons of reddit reading.
There are some sources that I can list though:
- https://awesome-selfhosted.net/ is great to find apps you might want to host
- https://docs.ibracorp.io/ mainly aims at Unraid hosting, but the information can oftentimes be transferred
- https://how2host.it has some start-to-finish guides that explain every setup step
- https://github.com/mikeroyal/Self-Hosting-Guide is an incredibly long list of apps and ressources you can use as a launchpad. Note the “Tutorials & Ressources” Section for further links
What did you use to chart this? And nicely done.
Excalidraw. Reading is hard. (Yeah, I missed that it was mentioned in the thread)
Excalidraw is nice. Also, I want to throw in a mention for mermaid.live (mermaid js). A little less flexiblity but it’s nice. There’s also kroki.io which hosts a lot of these types of apps.
Yeah, definitely a concert to Mermaid.
Since nobody else asked about this, why ruTorrent over the other typical download clients?
Pretty sure ruTorrent is a typical download client. The real reason is that it came preinstalled and I never had a reason to change it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Architecture looks dope
Hope you’ve safeguarded your setup by writing a provisoning script in case anything goes south.
I had to reinstall my server from scratch twice and can’t fathom having to reconfigure everything manually anymore
Nope, don’t have that yet. But since all my compose and config files are neatly organized on the file system, by domain and then by service, I tar up that entire docker dir once a week and pull it to the homelab, just in case.
How have you setup your provisioning script? Any special services or just some clever batch scripting?
btw why did you choose tailscale over zerotier
I heard about tailscale first, and haven’t yet had enough trouble to attempt a switch.
huh i thought zerotier is more popular.
i love it but their android app sucks. hasn’t received a single large update since android 5 and constantly keeps disconnectingAre you talking about the Tailscale App or the ZeroTier app? Because the TS Android app is the one thing im somewhat unhappy about, since it does not play nice with the private DNS setting.
I’m talking about the zerotier’s app
Tail scale is stupid easy to set up and free for first
ten100 devices and supports 3 custom domains.zerotier is open source and free with up to 25 nodes per network, and supports custom ip assignments (in custom ranges, with option to have multiple subnets per network), custom dhcp, managed dns, and custom, multiple managed routes (with option to point to a custom gateway), and traffic flow rules.
for example here are the rules i have set up for my “gaming” network that i use to play LAN games with my friends (only allows ipv4, arp and ipv6 traffic and prevents clients from self-assigning ip addresses)
route settings page:
my “personal” network (which just links all of my personal devices together) exists in 172.16.0.0/24 and auto-assigns ipv4 addresses in 172.16.0.101-172.16.0.199 range using dhcp (but i have configured custom ip addresses for each device anyway), and ipv6 is auto-assigned using RFC4196.
Tail scale can be self hosted also. But for example, it took me 5 clicks to set up a tail scale network with 3 devices.
Also it’s apparently been buffed to 100 devices for free and 3 custom domains.
Also open source https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale
I’ve seen Caddy mentioned a few times recently, what do you like about it over other tools?
I see everyone else have already chimed in on whats so great about Caddy (because it is!), one thing that has been a thorn in my side though is the lack of integration of fail2ban since Caddy has moved on from the old common log format and moved on to more modern log formats. So if you want to use a IPS/IDS, you’ll have to either find a creative hack to make it work with fail2ban or rely on more modern (and resource heavier) solutions such as crowdsec.
You can install the log transformer plugin for Caddy and have it produce a readable log format for fail2ban: https://github.com/caddyserver/transform-encoder
I had this setup on my VPS before I moved to a k3s setup. I will take a look at how to migrate my fail2ban setup to the new server.
Cool, thanks for this! As a user of Caddy through Docker, I suppose I need to find a way to build a docker image to be able to do this?
Sometimes new simple technologies makes things simple - but only as long as one intends to follow how they are used… 🙃
I think so, but if you check the official image you can definitely find out how to include custom plugins in it. I think the documentation might mention a thing or two about it too.
